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SOUR:EVEN:NOTE: Dear Wendelin, So nice to hear from you. It's always a surprise when something pops up from a posting on the net months or years later. If your Fridolin Schmid was b March 7, 1835 in Goerwihl and is the son of Joseph and Maria with many siblings then we are ce rtainly a match. Fridolin Schmid is my great great grandfather known in our family as gross papa. He immigrated from Germany in 1855 and hopped off the boat on the Keweenaw Penninsula of Upper Michigan, known as "Copper Country." This was an area rich in mining a nd a tough life for those settling in this part of the very northern USA. He married Rebecca Getchell, June 23, 1870, and they had at least 7 children( all did not live). He died April 30, 1929 and is buried with his wife and some of his childr en in Forrest Hill Cemetery, Houghton, Michigan USA. He became a superintendent of mines and was the superintendent of the Wolverine and Mohawk mines. The old family home at the Wolverine mine location is now a bed and breakfast lodging. One of his niece's also at some point immigrated and lived with him at this home. Fridolin Schmid's name became Americanized as Fred Smith and this is how it is shown in the 1880 US census. My oral family history says that he was not married when he arrived in this country at age 20 but he certainly may have been married. Looking forward to sharing with you any family info you might like to have as best I have it. Which of his siblings do you descend from and where are you located? I live just outside of Boston, Massachusetts. Best regards, Nancy |
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SOUR:EVEN:NOTE: Dear Wendelin, Please be patient with me and my computer. I've been off line for a few days due to computer virus and weather issues. We had quite a winter storm here on Friday with sleet, snow and blizzard winds. My computer provider shut down due to lightening strikes. I did get your last email but did have some trouble with the files as my system does not do well with adobe. If you want to send me new emails this is usually the best address. I will try to look for Fridolin's niece name, I want to say Maria Hemphill but am not sure. It is in some papers that my Mom has and I will look over Christmas when I visit her. I would be interested to know why Fridolin immigrated to America and if you know what port and ship he immigrated on? I am also interested in that he may have been married when he came. Unfortunately the part of Michigan which he immigrated to in 1855 did not start keeping formal records until 1867. But now that I know of the possibility, I can check to see if there is any information on her death. Do you have a name for her? I don't know how familiar you are with USA geography but you may be interested to know that Fridolin immigrated to Copper Harbor Michigan which is on the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. He settled in the area of Eagle Harbor where he began working at the copper mines. This area of Michigan is Keweenaw county in Michigan and is on the northern most peninsula of the Upper Peninsula that borders Lake Superior. The Canadian border is on the opposite side of Lake Superior. It was a frontier area dominated by miners opening up the area and many of the immigrants in the early years did not spend winters there due to the harsh environment. It's boom period was around 1900 and the mining industry has died out there now. Many of the old mining towns are what would be called ghost towns and are mostly deserted and abandoned in the area where mines closed down. Fridolin and Rebecca's first son, Frederick- died as infant; is buried in Eagle Harbor cemetery which is quite overgrown but still maintained. Many of the other mine cemeteries have not been so well cared for so serching is sometimes not successful even on foot. Best regards, Nancy PS: I think we are probably about 7th cousins. |
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SOUR:EVEN:NOTE: Dear Wendelin, I hope that you are well and enjoying the holidays. I did get a chance to poke into some family records when I visited my Mom over Christmas. Glad I looked it up and that we try to save everything! Fridolin Schmid ( 1835-1929) had several siblin gs. His sister Maria Josepha Schmid b. August 22, 1840 in Goerwihl married a Mr Hilpert( sorry but I don't have a first name for him or a date of marriage). We have written down that they both died in 1903. I do not know the circumstances of the ir deaths or how many children they had. Their daughter, Maria Hilpert, did not wish to stay in Germany and immigrated in 1903 to Michigan where she lived as a member of her uncles family. She was born Dec. 10, 1878( probably in Goerwihl) and die d Dec 15, 1974 In Houghton Co, Michigan USA at the age of 96. As far as we know, she did not marry. She is buried with her family at Lakeview Cemetery in Calumet, Michigan USA. I do not know the name of the ship she arrived on or where she depar ted from( Hamburg?). I could probably try the US immigration records for Ellis Island in NY. I understand that her life was quite busy with family here as her uncle Fridolin( Fred) had 8 children. Best regards, Nancy |
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SOUR:EVEN:NOTE: Dear Wendelin, Thanks so much for the info. I would love to have any info you can pass along. Say hi to your grandfather for me! Listed below are the children of Fridolin Schmid aka Fred Smith and Rebecca Getchell: 1 Frederick Smith b 1872 d 1872 2 Jessie Frederica Smith b January 16, 1874 d March 10, 1955( my great grandmother) 3 Willard J Smith b 1876 d 1948 4 Nellie Theresa Smith b January 15, 1879 5 Howard Smith July 21, 1885 d 1885 6 carl G Smith July 1, 1887 d 1950? 7 Fred Smith b November 17, 1889 d 1889 8 Rudolph Otto Smith b December 27, 1891 d July 1984 I will try to send you a more complete chart when I can get it to copy. Happy New Year, Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Wendelin Thomas [SMTP:***@***.com] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 1:03 PM To: ***@***.com Subject: Re: Schmid family genealogy Dear Nancy, I have checked with my grandfather and it seems that we don't have any further records on Fred Smith. I have found in the "Familiengeschichte der Gemeinde Görwihl" (=Family history of the municipality Goerwihl) that Mr Hilpert's first name is "Leonhard", he came from Weilheim and the marriage to Maria Josepha Schmid was on the 15th Jan 1874. Are you interested in some of the ancestors of Fred Smith back to Michael Schmid (born 1580)? I hope you had a great Xmas and that you'll have a Happy New Year. Wendelin |
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SOUR:EVEN:NOTE: Dear Wendelin, I have sent you some info on descendents of Fridolin Sr. that includes much of the data I have on Fred Smith Jr after he came to USA. Like you, I have gaps and some data we just haven't input on more current relations. I hope you can use some of this. Some of it didn't copy well and makes the info file longer than it should be! But I thought you would like to see it anyway. On the info you sent on Michael Schmid, was this all in Goerwihl? And is it proper to call Baden apart of Prussia or Germany as we have in our USA records? Do you have any more info on the siblings of Fridolin Schmid(1835-1929)Fred Smith? One of the stories we had heard about Fred/Fridolin is that he left to come to America to avoid conscription in the military, however, we also know(we think) that h e served in the US Civil War on the Union side as a part of the Michigan contingent. Best regards, Nancy Descendants of Fridolin Schmid Generation No. 1 1. FRIDOLIN1 SCHMID was born March 11, 1770 in Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia, and died 1833. He married MARIA HUBER February 17, 1794. She was born 1771 in Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia, and died 1854. Children of FRIDOLIN SCHMID and MARIA HUBER are: 2. i. KATHARINA2 SCHMID, b. January 24, 1795, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia; d. March 06, 1870. 3. ii. JOSEPH SCHMID, b. June 08, 1804, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia; d. March 20, 1885. iii. JAKOB SCHMID, b. May 08, 1814, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia; m. VERENA BAER. Generation No. 2 2. KATHARINA2 SCHMID (FRIDOLIN1) was born January 24, 1795 in Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia, and died March 06, 1870. She married FRANZ STRITTMATTER January 31, 1828 in Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. He was born October 09, 1794 in Goer wihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. Children of KATHARINA SCHMID and FRANZ STRITTMATTER are: i. MAGDALENA3 STRITTMATTER, b. January 18, 1832, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. ii. MARIA STRITTMATTER, b. December 04, 1828, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. iii. JOHANNES STRITTMATTER, b. June 20, 1834, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia; m. MARIA, November 23, 1865, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. iv. FELIX STRITTMATTER, b. September 06, 1830, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. 3. JOSEPH2 SCHMID (FRIDOLIN1) was born June 08, 1804 in Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia, and died March 20, 1885. He married MARIA BAER August 30, 1832 in Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. She was born August 21, 1812 in Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia, and died July 08, 1874 in Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. Children of JOSEPH SCHMID and MARIA BAER are: i. JOHANNES NEPOMUK3 SCHMID, b. September 10, 1832, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. 4. ii. FRED SMITH( FRIDOLIN SCHMID), b. March 07, 1835, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia; d. April 30, 1929, Houghton Co, MI. iii. THERESIA SCHMID, b. July 28, 1836, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia; d. December 25, 1867, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. iv. CRESCENZ SCHMID, b. January 01, 1838, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. v. KONRAD SCHMID, b. May 11, 1839, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. 5. vi. MARIA JOSEPHA SCHMID, b. August 22, 1840, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia; d. 1903. vii. JOSEPH SCHMID, b. December 29, 1847, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. viii. MARIA SCHMID, b. October 13, 1851, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia; d. 1851, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. ix. MARIA SCHMID, b. July 14, 1853, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia; d. September 08, 1853, Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. Generation No. 3 4. FRED SMITH( FRIDOLIN3 SCHMID) (JOSEPH2 SCHMID, FRIDOLIN1) was born March 07, 1835 in Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia, and died April 30, 1929 in Houghton Co, MI. He married REBECCA GETCHELL June 23, 1870 in Houghton, MI USA. She was born 1 851 in EastMachias, Washington Co., ME, and died 1935. Notes for FRED SMITH( FRIDOLIN SCHMID): from 1880 US census: 1880 United States Census Household Record Household Record 1880 United States Census Household: Table with 10 columns and 7 rows Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Fred SMITH Self M Male W 45 BADEN Agent For Mine BADEN BADEN Rebecca SMITH Wife M Female W 29 ME Keeps House ME ME Jessie F. SMITH Dau S Female W 6 MI BADEN ME Willard J. SMITH Son S Male W 4 MI BADEN ME Nellie T. SMITH Dau S Female W 1 MI BADEN ME Tillie JACKSON Other S Female W 21 MI Servant ENG PRUSSIA table end Source Information: Table with 3 columns and 4 rows Census Place Allouez, Keweenaw, Michigan Family History Library Film 1254589 NA Film Number T9-0589 Page Number 47C images/ViewAncestryImageFee table end The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints © 1999-2005 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. English approval: 3/1999 Use of this site constitutes your acceptance of these Conditions of Use (last updated: 3/22/1999). Privacy Policy (last updated: 11/24/2004). 25 http://www.familysearch.org v.2.5.0 About Us | Contact Us | Press Room LDS Church Sites | LDS Country Sites Search section main content frame end More About FRED SMITH( FRIDOLIN SCHMID): Burial: May 03, 1929, Forrest Hill Cemetery, Houghton MI More About REBECCA GETCHELL: Burial: Forrest Hill Cemetery, Houghton MI Children of FRED SCHMID) and REBECCA GETCHELL are: i. FREDERICK4 SMITH, b. 1872; d. 1872. More About FREDERICK SMITH: Burial: Eagle Harbor, Keweenaw, MI 6. ii. JESSIE FREDRICA SMITH, b. January 16, 1874, Copper Falls, Keweenaw, MI; d. March 10, 1955. iii. WILLARD J SMITH, b. 1876, Houghton Co, MI; d. 1948; m. ALLIE ( ALICE) KANE1, February 14, 1905, Marquette, Keweenaw, MI; b. October 27, 1877, Grant( Delaware), Keweenaw, Michigan; d. 1950. More About WILLARD J SMITH: Burial: Forrest Hill Cemetery, Houghton MI Notes for ALLIE ( ALICE) KANE: father: Thomas Kane born in Ireland died between 1877 and prior to 1880 US census, mother's maiden name Anna Egan: Search section navigation frame FamilySearch Navigation Bar - Search FamilySearch.org - Family History and Genealogy Records W H E R E G E N E R A T I O N S M E E T HOME SEARCH SHARE LIBRARY Sign On | Register | Site Map | Help Search for Ancestors Research Guidance Research Helps Web Sites Family History Library Catalog Search section navigation frame end Search section main content frame 1880 United States Census Household Record Table with 3 columns and 3 rows Household Record 1880 United States Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household table end Household: Table with 10 columns and 6 rows Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Annie KANE Self M Female W 30 IRE Keeps House IRE IRE Mary E. KANE Dau S Female W 8 MI IRE IRE John T. KANE Son S Male W 6 MI IRE IRE Michael KANE Son S Male W 4 MI IRE IRE Alice KANE Dau S Female W 2 MI IRE IRE table end Source Information: Table with 3 columns and 4 rows Census Place Eagle Harbor, Keweenaw, Michigan Family History Library Film 1254589 NA Film Number T9-0589 Page Number 8C images/ViewAncestryImageFee table end The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints © 1999-2005 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. English approval: 3/1999 Use of this site constitutes your acceptance of these Conditions of Use (last updated: 3/22/1999). Privacy Policy (last updated: 11/24/2004). 29 http://www.familysearch.org v.2.5.0 About Us | Contact Us | Press Room LDS Church Sites | LDS Country Sites Search section main content frame end More About ALLIE ( ALICE) KANE: Burial: Forrest Hill Cemetery, Houghton MI 7. iv. NELLIE THERESA SMITH, b. January 15, 1879, Allouez, Keweenaw, MI. v. HOWARD SMITH, b. July 21, 1885, Allouez, Keweenaw, MI; d. 1885. 8. vi. CARL G SMITH, b. June 01, 1887, Allouez, Keweenaw, MI. vii. FRED SMITH, b. November 17, 1889, Allouez, Keweenaw, MI; d. 1889. 9. viii. RUDOLPH OTTO SMITH, b. December 27, 1891, Allouez, Keweenaw, MI; d. July 1984, Mount Dora, Lake Co, Florida. 5. MARIA JOSEPHA3 SCHMID (JOSEPH2, FRIDOLIN1) was born August 22, 1840 in Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia, and died 1903. She married LEONHARD HILPERT January 15, 1874 in Goerwihl, Waldshut, Baden Prussia. He was born in Weilheim, and died 19 03. Child of MARIA SCHMID and LEONHARD HILPERT is: i. MARIA4 HILPERT, b. December 10, 1878, Germany2; d. December 15, 1974, Gay, Houghton, MI3. More About MARIA HILPERT: Burial: Lakeview Cemetery, Calumet, MI Generation No. 4 6. JESSIE FREDRICA4 SMITH (FRED SMITH( FRIDOLIN3 SCHMID), JOSEPH2 SCHMID, FRIDOLIN1) was born January 16, 1874 in Copper Falls, Keweenaw, MI, and died March 10, 1955. She married (1) JAMES HOSKING June 25, 1895 in Allouez, Keweenaw, MI. He was b orn October 17, 1867 in Phoenix, Keweenaw, MI, and died June 08, 1904 in Wolverine, Keweenaw, MI. She married (2) ANDREW C ROCHE September 30, 1907 in Anderson, Houghton, MI. More About JESSIE FREDRICA SMITH: Burial: Lakeview Cemetery, Calumet, MI More About JAMES HOSKING: Burial: Lakeview Cemetery, Calumet, MI More About ANDREW C ROCHE: Burial: Lakeview Cemetery, Calumet, MI Children of JESSIE SMITH and JAMES HOSKING are: i. HOMER LINCOLN5 HOSKING, b. April 14, 1896, Allouez, Keweenaw, MI; d. October 06, 1967; m. RUTH GLADDING SHEPARD; b. July 05, 1898, Melrose, MA. ii. JAMES HOSKING, b. December 13, 1897, Allouez, Keweenaw, MI; d. November 1978. More About JAMES HOSKING: Burial: Lakeview Cemetery, Calumet, MI iii. FREDERICK SMITH HOSKING, b. February 18, 1902, Allouez, Keweenaw, MI; d. March 1967; m. RUBY YOUNG. More About FREDERICK SMITH HOSKING: Burial: Lakeview Cemetery, Calumet, MI More About RUBY YOUNG: Burial: Lakeview Cemetery, Calumet, MI 7. NELLIE THERESA4 SMITH (FRED SMITH( FRIDOLIN3 SCHMID), JOSEPH2 SCHMID, FRIDOLIN1) was born January 15, 1879 in Allouez, Keweenaw, MI. She married (1) GEORGE H PETERMAN June 26, 1900 in Wolverine, Keweenaw, MI. He was born 1872 in Michigan4. S he married (2) DR. JAMES EDWARD RHINES 1906. He was born September 12, 1877 in Detroit, Wayne Co., MI, and died January 04, 1920 in Rochester, Olmstead, MN. Notes for GEORGE H PETERMAN: 1880 US census: Search section navigation frame FamilySearch Navigation Bar - Search FamilySearch.org - Family History and Genealogy Records W H E R E G E N E R A T I O N S M E E T HOME SEARCH SHARE LIBRARY Sign On | Register | Site Map | Help Search for Ancestors Research Guidance Research Helps Web Sites Family History Library Catalog Search section navigation frame end Search section main content frame 1880 United States Census Household Record Table with 3 columns and 3 rows Household Record 1880 United States Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household table end Household: Table with 10 columns and 9 rows Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Ferdinand PETERMANN Self M Male W 42 WURTEMBERG Mine Captain WURTEMBERG WURTEMBERG Carolina PETERMANN Wife M Female W 35 PRUSSIA Keeping House PRUSSIA PRUSSIA John P. PETERMANN Son S Male W 16 MI Fire Man WURTEMBERG PRUSSIA Carolina PETERMANN Dau S Female W 14 MI At School WURTEMBERG PRUSSIA Fernando PETERMANN Son S Male W 10 MI WURTEMBERG PRUSSIA George PETERMANN Son S Male W 8 MI WURTEMBERG PRUSSIA Emma PETERMANN Dau S Female W 5 MI WURTEMBERG PRUSSIA Albert PETERMANN Son S Male W 3 MI WURTEMBERG PRUSSIA table end Source Information: Table with 3 columns and 4 rows Census Place 1st Precinct, Calumet, Houghton, Michigan Family History Library Film 1254581 NA Film Number T9-0581 Page Number 548B images/ViewAncestryImageFee table end The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints © 1999-2005 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. English approval: 3/1999 Use of this site constitutes your acceptance of these Conditions of Use (last updated: 3/22/1999). Privacy Policy (last updated: 11/24/2004). 27 http://www.familysearch.org v.2.5.0 About Us | Contact Us | Press Room LDS Church Sites | LDS Country Sites Search section main content frame end Notes for DR. JAMES EDWARD RHINES: parents: James Edward Rhines Sr. / Margaret Curran 1880 United States Census Household Record Household Record 1880 United States Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household Household: Table with 10 columns and 9 rows Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace James RHINES Self M Male W 38 IL Ticket Agent - Rr NY NY Margurt RHINES Wife M Female W 34 MI PA PA Edward RHINES Son S Male W 12 OH At School IL MI Minnie RHINES Dau S Female W 9 OH At School IL MI Dasie RHINES Dau S Female W 6 MI IL MI James RHINES Son S Male W 3 MI IL MI RHINES Dau S Female W 7M MI IL MI Sopha PAPKA Other S Female W 17 GER Servant GER GER table end Source Information: Table with 3 columns and 4 rows Census Place Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Children of NELLIE SMITH and JAMES RHINES are: i. JAMES EDWARD5 RHINES, b. May 08, 1908, Mohawk, Keweenaw, MI; d. August 17, 1986, Lake Forest, Lake, MI. ii. DR. RUTH WINIFRED RHINES, b. July 02, 1910, Mohawk, Keweenaw, MI; d. July 17, 2002, Eagle Harbor, Keweenaw, MI. iii. RUDOLF O RHINES, b. November 10, 1914, Laurium, Houghton, MI; d. September 29, 1988, Wayne Co, MI. Notes for RUDOLF O RHINES: from SSDI: Rudolph RHINES Birth Date: 10 Nov 1914 Death Date: 29 Sep 1988 Social Security Number: 300-07-0608 State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Ohio Death Residence Localities ZIP Code: 48192 Localities: Riverview, Wayne, Michigan Wyandotte, Wayne, Michigan . CARL G4 SMITH (FRED SMITH( FRIDOLIN3 SCHMID), JOSEPH2 SCHMID, FRIDOLIN1) was born June 01, 1887 in Allouez, Keweenaw, MI. He married JOAN TOCCI. She was born 1892, and died 1974. Children of CARL SMITH and JOAN TOCCI are: i. FREDERICK5 SMITH. ii. JAMES SMITH, b. 1913; m. HELEN MAUTAUGH. iii. REYNOLD SMITH, b. 1915; m. ETOLA WATERS; b. July 01, 19135; d. March 26, 2003, Albany, NY6. 9. RUDOLPH OTTO4 SMITH (FRED SMITH( FRIDOLIN3 SCHMID), JOSEPH2 SCHMID, FRIDOLIN1) was born December 27, 1891 in Allouez, Keweenaw, MI, and died July 1984 in Mount Dora, Lake Co, Florida7. He married GERALDINE MULLEN. Children of RUDOLPH SMITH and GERALDINE MULLEN are: i. PETER5 SMITH. ii. PATRICIA SMITH. Endnotes <Not accepted by database, it thinks they are a hack attempt. Sorry> |
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SOUR:EVEN:NOTE: Dear Wendelin, No, it didn't make it through. I expect you are right about the zip files! That's happening to us at work as well. I use an older version of family treemaker, so I'm not too current with my programs. I would appreciate anything you can send along. Our emails have prompted me to try to contact Fred's grandchildren, Peter & Pat smith who are the children of Rudolph. I thought they had some data on some of the more current relatives. Peter Smith is a professor at the U of North Carolina and his sister Pat Smith O'Hara lives in New Jersey. How is jolly old England? We had 16" of snow here last Sunday but it mostly melted during the week as it warmed up quite a bit. Today the cold is back and the wind chill is well below freezing. Watching the winter Olympics makes me feel right at home! Best regards, Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Wendelin Thomas [SMTP:****@****.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:49 PM To: Nancy Smith Subject: Fred Smith Ancestry Chart Dear Nancy, I take it that my last email did not manage to get through. I was worried that that would happen as I added a compressed file attachment (zip) which some email providers block as they can contain viruses (like many other file formats). Do you use genealogy (.ged) files? If so I could send you all I have relating to Fred as one .ged file to save you some time. Wendelin |
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